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stock_help.png corrupt?
Lars
2010-02-02 08:52:32 UTC
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Hi guys!

Does anyone have a copy of this image? I noticed it's destroyed in my copy and everywhere in svn where I could find it..

Thanks,

Lars.

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Sigurd Nes
2010-02-02 13:38:45 UTC
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Sent: 2010-02-02 09:52:32 CET
Subject: [phpGroupWare-developers] stock_help.png corrupt?
Hi guys!
Does anyone have a copy of this image? I noticed it's destroyed in my copy and everywhere in svn where I could find it..
Hi Lars,

Fixed in svn

Regards

Sigurd
Lars
2010-02-02 15:26:22 UTC
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Thank you!

I attached an image where you can see, what I intend to use it for..

Regards,

Lars.

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Sigurd Nes
2010-02-02 20:55:00 UTC
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Post by Lars
Thank you!
I attached an image where you can see, what I intend to use it for..
Regards,
Hi Lars and others,

A context help - nice!


Maybe we could use this opportunity to look for some new icons to renew the
overall design.

This collection looked appealing to me (random hit by a quick google search)
http://www.iconspedia.com/icon/context-help-4050.html

Also the logo and the login screen seems to be - well - a bit crude.

I remember MaĆ¢t had a draft for a new logo some time ago.

Also - we _COULD_ consider to include a reference to a manual. As an option -
the 'manual' module can convert odt-files into html on the fly.


Regards

Sigurd
Lars
2010-02-02 22:24:28 UTC
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sigurdne wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 21:55
Post by Sigurd Nes
Maybe we could use this opportunity to look for some new icons to renew the
overall design.
This collection looked appealing to me (random hit by a quick google search)
Yes, the crystal clear icon set is beautiful and modern, I'd like to use it for the next release!

sigurdne wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 21:55
Post by Sigurd Nes
Also the logo and the login screen seems to be - well - a bit crude.
Actually I'm going to try to find a new look for the setup. This screen I attached is definitely not a final version.. It's at least created tableless, uses no JS and will easily be transformed to xhtml. Currently it validates as HTML 4.01 Transitional but I'd like to have it validate as XHTML.
This will be some work, but I want to do it. I hate HTML that doesn't validate.. ;) When setup validates I might start to make other modules tableless and validating.

Regarding the view of it I can't do that much. I ain't good at graphics or designing modern layouts. I will try to do what I can, though. The screenshot shows a try, which I do not consider to be good enough. It's not really modern and contains rather small changes from the original design. But I think, it's currently not that important, what it looks like. This will in my opinion get more value, when we get closer to a new release.

sigurdne wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 21:55
Post by Sigurd Nes
Also - we _COULD_ consider to include a reference to a manual. As an option -
the 'manual' module can convert odt-files into html on the fly.
Yes, this is a good idea. To be honest I didn't look at this module yet, since setup will presumably not be able to use it, at least when the db still doesn't exist. If this is not true, please tell me.

Unfortunately I'll be away from home for the next two weeks and will thus not be able to do much work for phpGroupWare. But I'll do as much as possible.

Regards,

Lars.

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Sigurd Nes
2010-02-02 22:45:58 UTC
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Post by Lars
sigurdne wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 21:55
Post by Sigurd Nes
Also - we _COULD_ consider to include a reference to a manual. As an option -
the 'manual' module can convert odt-files into html on the fly.
Yes, this is a good idea. To be honest I didn't look at this module yet, since setup will presumably not be able to use it, at least when the db still doesn't exist. If this is not true, please tell me.
There is no reference to the database:
index.php?menuaction=manual.uimanual.help&app=<app>&section=<name>

will translate the $odtfile = PHPGW_SERVER_ROOT .
"/{$app}/help/{$lang}/{$section}.odt";

Still there is an issue with not having permission to run the manual application
- but that one should possible to get around some how. I will look into it if
you think you can use it.


Regards

Sigurd
Lars
2010-02-02 23:15:09 UTC
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sigurdne wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 23&#58;45
index.php?menuaction=manual.uimanual.help&app=<app>&section= <name>
will translate the $odtfile = PHPGW_SERVER_ROOT .
"/{$app}/help/{$lang}/{$section}.odt";
Still there is an issue with not having permission to run the manual application
- but that one should possible to get around some how. I will look into it if
you think you can use it.
Thats good to know! Currently setup doesn't have such a file, not even an help-folder, but one could write such an file. Using such references would need different code for the context help, maybe even JS, but it would definitely be a good thing, I guess.
One big advantage over my current system is: You can use more text, even images, and thus explain more detailed. I'll certainly have a look into this.

The context help from the screenshot is placed on a login site, so the references would have to work without any kind of authorization. Would be great, if you could have a look into this within the next two weeks.

Regards,

frozen.

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